[Thunder booms] – [Paige] This storm is like…right here. – [Both] Hello everyone/body! – [Paige] Back when we did the Chilling Challenge, I did the first video and I talked
about Maleficent and I like briefly mentioned the live-action
Maleficent movie and got a few comments after that that like people didn’t like it. I have never agreed with that opinion, so
Sarah and I watched Maleficent from 2014. And we’re of the mind that people
that don’t like it are wrong. I’m sure you have your reasons; we have ours. That’s
what we’re gonna talk about today: our reasons as to why Maleficent is very
harshly judged, why it shouldn’t be, and what its merits are. If you don’t know
what Maleficent from 2014 is, it’s essentially a retelling of Disney’s
Sleeping Beauty, but from the perspective of Maleficent and/or Aurora as the
narrator, so it kind of takes a Wicked approach to the story of Sleeping Beauty.
– [Sarah] I had only seen it once way back in 2014 when we’d watched it together, and I
didn’t really have any strong opinions about it. But we just rewatched it…
[Thunder booms loudly] – [Paige] The thunder is fitting, but annoying right now.
[Both laugh] – [Sarah] We had Tim Burton’s Alice
in Wonderland in 2010, right? – [Paige] Somewhere around
there. Before Maleficent. – [Sarah] Funny thing, Linda Woolverton
does the screenplay for Maleficent and she also did the screenplay for Alice in
Wonderland. We were talking, when we watched it, about how, you know, we really
like and respect Linda Woolverton. Alice in Wonderland is all over the place.
– [Paige] It’s not her best- – [Sarah] It’s not her best.
Having watched Maleficent, like especially since, you know, I mean
our ability to critique movies and also just look at the structure of the story
as well has definitely improved in the last five years, and I liked it.
– [Paige] Yeah! – [Sarah] I do wonder if part of my feelings about it are directly influenced by the fact
that so many of the later live-action Disney movies are just so boring and
unoriginal that I have such low standards, but I also don’t really think
that’s the case with Maleficent. So Robert Stromberg, who was the director,
was the production designer for Alice in Wonderland (2010) & Oz the Great and Powerful (2013),
which I made a comment about how so many of the visuals reminded me of Oz the
Great and Powerful, which like is a terribly written movie.
– [Paige] The visuals are not
the downside of that movie. – [Sarah] But the visuals and the production design of Oz the Great and Powerful
is not what’s wrong with that movie. One of the things that we have seen quite
a bit from people who do not like this film – of which it seems to be a very
popular feeling, not liking this film – is that it’s disrespectful to the original
story, it takes a female villain and makes her not a villain anymore.
– [Paige] Gives her like a revenge story that – [Sarah] is fueled by trauma inflicted by a man.
– [Paige] And they definitely have those elements, but that’s not where it stops.
– [Sarah] And I think the other
one that we’ve seen a couple of times now is the treatment
of like the Flora, Fauna, and Merryweather characters, like in the original. I think
it’s really important to watch Maleficent with the understanding that
it is not attempting to re-make Sleeping Beauty in the way that like the other
live-action remakes, I think, have been, like trying to capture the exact same
story especially of, like, the Disney Renaissance movies. The one’s kind of a
bet exists outside of the Disney Renaissance really seem to try and do
something relatively different. Like you got your Pete’s Dragon, and your Dumbo…
– [Paige] Your Cinderella. – [Sarah] All of those actually deviate quite a bit from the original – [Paige] Disney movie.
– [Sarah] Yes. But the Disney Renaissance movies, so, you know,
your Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Lion King. They are very much
attempting to directly capture the nostalgia that you have for those movies
and I think a really good way to look at Maleficent is, “We are telling a different
interpretation of some of these same figures.” I think it’s very deliberate like that Flora, Fauna, and Merryweather do not really exist in this
story. There are characters who you can link them to, but they have different names.
– [Paige] They have different personalities. – [Sarah] Yeah, and they have a completely
different function in the story. I think the Maleficent is so different
from the original Sleeping Beauty that it doesn’t bother me that
some of those characters are so vastly different. Stefan is completely
different, like his motivation is completely different, but it’s just an
entirely separate interpretation of like the kind of story that they came up with.
You can also kind of look at it as the original Sleeping Beauty being this
kind of story told from the perspective of perhaps the Royal side, I
guess, where Maleficent is seen as this incredibly villainous and incredibly
powerful, but still a one-dimensional villain who has one goal, and it’s being
evil, and it’s wreaking havoc. And that’s cool, but it’s also interesting to see the other side of that where the
interpretation could be, “What if we don’t just assume that, because she’s a woman,
that she’s evil?” I don’t think that this is meant to be a way of Disney
being like, “This is canon!” – [Paige] They’re just like, “Here’s another way to see it.” – [Sarah] Yeah, “Here’s a different
interpretation of that same story.” – [Paige] Right. And the one other
complaint that I hear a lot, even now, is just that people didn’t want to see
Maleficent as anything other than a villain. They don’t want to see her as an
anti-hero, and so they thought that this movie was kind of useless because it
wasn’t serving their own purposes. And I just think that is a very…
I don’t want to say self-centered but kind of…you put yourself in
the center of the ring. – [Sarah] We were biased when we talked about
Beauty and the Beast because we have that personal connection. I understand why
some people would also be upset because of that, like, if it has personal
significance to them. And it all depends on that, so we recognize that we
don’t have that bias, and that doesn’t make our opinion more right than
somebody who really loves the original Sleeping Beauty and really loves the
character of Maleficent. But it’s just something to consider: different isn’t
always necessarily bad. – [Paige] And it’s not always necessarily
a slight against your personal opinion. – [Sarah] Or the original source material.
– [Paige] Right. – [Sarah] It helps the Beauty and the
Beast (2017) is a badly written movie. Maleficent, on the other hand,
has a lot going for it, honestly. especially in terms of story.
– [Paige] So getting right into the
heart of why I love this movie, why I have always liked it like
since I saw it in theaters: Maleficent is a sexual assault survivor, and you can’t
really miss the rape metaphor if you’re an adult watching this movie. It’s never
exploitative, even though the rest of the story is based on her dealing with her
trauma, it’s not just that, you know? She isn’t like solely motivated by that.
– [Sarah] We see that young Maleficent meets child King Stefan, the boy who will eventually
be Aurora’s father, and they develop a friendship that-
– [Paige] which turns into like – [Sarah] romantic feelings and a romantic relationship,
and as he climbs kind of the ranks over on the human side of where they live – and
it’s important to mention that the kind of fantasy realm where Maleficent lives
and the human side are often at war with each other;
– [Paige] The Moors is what they keep calling- – [Sarah] The Moors is what they call the fairy home
– [Paige] her area. Yeah. – [Sarah] So there’s that conflict between like magical being and humans going on, and
through it all Stefan and Maleficent have this connection, and
she cares about him and he cares about her up to a certain point, only until she
stands in the way of him amassing the kind of power that he wants to
have. The acting King says, – [Dying King] Kill the winged creature, and
upon my death, you will take the crown! – [Sarah] And Stefan uses that relationship
with Maleficent to gain access to her, drugs her, and then while she’s sleeping, can’t
quite bring himself to murder her. Instead he cuts off her wings and takes them back as
proof that he killed her, and when she wakes up, she’s in a lot of pain and it’s
very clear that it’s a metaphor for sexual assault and I thought that we
could definitely look at it from a sort of disability perspective as well. She
definitely seems to experience pain, like some chronic pain. That’s why she
conjures the staff that she walks around with so much. It’s a mobility aid,
at least at first. When you have sexual assault metaphors, I think it can
really be very easy like you said to move into like exploitative territory, to
make it just about like, “This is a very simple thing. You know, the woman
gets assaulted, a woman is put through pain by a man, and then the woman
becomes stronger for it.” I don’t think the movie really hard to use that.
I don’t think it’s positing that Maleficent couldn’t be the Mistress
of All Evil, she couldn’t be as powerful as she is at her full capacity if she
hadn’t had this thing happened to her. It’s very clear that she’s already extremely powerful.
– [Paige] And I think the movie actually makes the opposite argument,
that she’s at the height of her power when she is fighting for something that
she loves, not against somebody that has hurt her.
– [Sarah] It shows her healing, and it takes a while but I think that’s still effective. I think sometimes a lot
of people lean on this idea that you can just use magic as a metaphor for any
kind of real-life prejudice, and often- I mean, that’s how you have like things
like Bright (2017) that thinks it’s being very deep but really doesn’t have anything
to say and is resting a lot on stereotypes, rather than actual emotion
or experience. I think it actually really, really works here in Maleficent because
Maleficent isn’t upset just because he’s a man, and she’s not closed off because
he’s a man. The audience will see that real-life connection between like a
woman being sexually assaulted by a man and having to deal with that trauma- like
that, the audience will see that and they will draw that connection. But like the
story of Maleficent goes beyond that. Her closing her walls, essentially, is
much more about how she trusted the humans and how that directly hurt her.
And I think a big thing about Aurora and her relationship with Aurora and kind of
healing from that pain, is her realizing that she has hurt- she’s condemned an
innocent person in an attempt to hurt somebody else. For a story like that to
work, both aspects need to work. It can’t just be the strength of the real-life
metaphor that powers you through, and it can’t just be the in-story issue that
powers you through. It’s got to be both working together for it to be a good
metaphor and I think it is. Let’s talk about Angelina Jolie!
– [Paige] Angelina Jolie plays Maleficent, all of her kids wanted her to play Maleficent.
They helped her like train for the role. – [Sarah] She was also an
executive producer on the film. Angelina Jolie-
– [Paige] Was basically born to play this role. – [Sarah] Who does such a good job!
– [Paige] Yeah! [Crow squawks]
[Maleficent laughs] – [Maleficent] How quaint. – [Sarah] It was so refreshing to like watch
so much of an original story and scenes play out because-
[Thunder booms] We’ve gotten three live-action Disney
remakes this year. None of them are particularly great. To watch this and not
have so many moments where I was preoccupied by the fact that they were
just directly copying the original material- really there’s just
one scene where it’s a direct copy. – [Paige] And they do the work to earn copying it.
– [Sarah] Yeah. The scene where she crashes
Aurora’s christening is pretty much word-for-word. It’s very
much taking the same kind of visual cues as in the original scene.
– [Paige] Yeah. [Maleficent cackles]
– [Maleficent] Oh dear. What an awkward situation. – [Sarah] But like by the time we get to that scene, like
you said, we’ve already seen so much original material that it’s just fun to watch
that scene, that familiar scene play out.
– [Paige] It feels much more like a
respectful nod to the original rather than a straight-up copy of it.
– [Sarah] Yeah. A lesser copy. – [Paige] Yeah.
– [Sarah] Angelina Jolie like does such a good job of contorting her
face to match that smile! It’s- – [Paige] To look like a Marc Davis drawing.
– [Sarah] It’s so impressive! I mean she’s a cartoon, with those mannerisms
and with that laugh and with that smile. – [Paige] She was very preoccupied in
paying respect to Eleanor Audley, and to some extent, to Marc Davis.
And I think that’s why I respect her in this role so much
– [Sarah] I am very curious
about whether or not the people who hated that movie so much when it came
out you know five years ago, would feel the same way now that we are so far into
the Disney live-action remakes. – [Paige] And also post-the #MeToo movement starting.
– [Sarah] That’s a good point. I found myself very impressed by the
fact that like Disney released a movie with a very obvious rape metaphor.
[Paige agrees] – [Paige] We have not even
talked about absolute cupcake Elle Fanning as Aurora.
– [Sarah] She’s so good! – [Paige] Like I start talking about her and I get emotional just ’cause she is- like I feel
like Maleficent all of the sudden, and I’m just like, “This tiny person is precious
and I must protect her at all costs!” – [Sarah] Her whole job in that movie is to be
extremely likable and sweet and kind, and she does it perfectly!
– [Paige] Yeah! – [Sarah] One of the
things, I think, that is a flaw in the original story is just but Aurora does
not get a whole lot of a personality. – [Paige] She doesn’t have a lot of autonomy, like, at all. – [Sarah] She’s a lot more of an object, and that’s nothing against people who
really, really loved Aurora. I’m not saying that she has no personhood or
autonomy, just that she’s got a bit less than a lot of the other Disney heroines.
– [Paige] Meanwhile, 2014 they’re like, “Let’s give Aurora a stake in the story!”
– [Sarah] “A personoality!” – [Paige] “You know. The story
that revolves around…HER! – [Sarah] I think it’s an incredibly clever little
touch of writing, and it’s a subtle thing. It’s not- it’s not something that is
trying to draw your attention to it. It’s just something that you will pick up
with you’re paying attention, but part of the gifts that she’s given by the
faeries – Maleficent included – is that – [Maleficent] The princess shall indeed grow in
grace and beauty, beloved by all who meet her. – [Sarah] It’s interesting because Maleficent is kind
of helping to raise her because, you know, the fairies looking after her are not
doing a good enough job, and she wants to make sure that she has to be survives to
her 16th birthday for the curse to be enacted. The more time she spends with
her, the more she comes to love Aurora, and it’s kind of it’s a nice little
touch of like that curse kind of working against her. And I think it’s a
really nice story about adoptive parenting and I can understand,
especially, why Angelina Jolie in particular would have wanted to look at
the story from that perspective as well. – [Paige] And of course, you know, one of the cutest
things about the movie, besides Elle Fanning, is the fact that they couldn’t
find a child that wasn’t completely terrified of cut cheekbones, horned
Angelina Jolie other than her own baby! So she’s just in the movie playing young Aurora!
– [Sarah] It’s very cute. – [Paige] Diaval.
– [Sarah] I know you love Diaval. – [Paige] I. Love. Diaval. I think he’s so funny! – [Diaval] What have you done
to my beautiful self? – [Maleficent] Would you rather I let
them beat you to death? – [Diaval] I’m not certain. – [Paige] Their relationship is just-
it’s so interesting and fun. – [Sarah] They have good chemistry together.
– [Paige] Right, yeah. – [Sarah] As like a team.
– [Paige] Yeah. – [Sarah] And I do think that he adds some levity. And he’s not even like the
typical kind of comic relief character, where he’s making a lot of like weird,
not totally appropriate jokes. A lot of it is snark.
– [Diaval] How could you do that to me? – [Maleficent] You said anything I need!
– [Diaval] Yeah, but not a dog! They’re dirty, vicious, and they hunt birds! – [Sarah] He’s in it just the right amount.
– [Paige] Yeah. – [Sarah] The story is still very
clearly about Maleficent and later Maleficent and Aurora’s relationship.
– [Paige] Yeah. Really, the biggest thing that I liked about his
character is that, when Maleficent has taken it upon herself to keep Aurora alive,
because the Pixies are useless, she like half-heartedly cares about
Aurora. She’s like, “Well I just need you to stay alive for sixteen
years, but that doesn’t mean you can’t get hurt and I can’t laugh at it because
I’m hurt myself.” And Diaval is the one that’s like, “Stop! She is a baby! Stop doing
that! We need her like in one piece, friend!”
[Crow cawing] – [Sarah] It’s a very bright and colorful
movie. I think the color grading is actually very appropriate, which – whoo! I
mean Christopher Robin, I had some problems with. I’ve certainly noticed that
there’s a lot of kind of CGI muddy kinda tone to a lot of these newer movies.
Maleficent uses color well. It’s not just the same flat kind of faded
looking thing the whole time. – [Paige] If there’s blue because it’s nighttime.
it’s a digestible blue where you see Maleficent in her completely black getup walking
through the woods the middle of the night. – [Sarah] And it’s sad that that’s how low
our bar is for some of these things but Maleficent passes it! It clears that
bar. Doesn’t mean it’s perfect. Let’s talk about the leather hot pants. They are stupid. – [Paige] Do you have like
a lot to say about the hot pants? – [Sarah] Nope.
– [Paige] It was a bad choice. – [Sarah] They’re really stupid. – [Paige] Are you in Underworld or Maleficent? – [Sarah] It’s really unfortunate
to make such a silly choice that you know takes you out of the movie
right at the end, because I think that when you don’t quite stick the
landing or you don’t get- you don’t quite get some of the details right at the end,
people remember them a little bit more than they should. Like had the hot pants
been at the beginning, I don’t think I would have remembered them as much! I
mean we hadn’t even talked about the whole true love’s kiss thing. Which, when
it came out in 2014 like Frozen had only just done it, and then Snow White and
Huntsman kind of ripped it off from Frozen, and then Maleficent also did it.
The true love’s kiss like solution of like Maleficent’s love for Aurora as a
daughter was a little bit down played because Frozen had just done it a year earlier.
– [Paige] Which isn’t fair to Maleficent. – [Sarah] I don’t think it’s fair and I think that
that solution is still a nice twist as long as it’s not overused.
– [Paige] The thing about Maleficent versus frozen in this case is that we don’t really
get a relationship between Anna and Elsa. We just see them on their separate journeys.
– [Sarah] That’s a really good point. I see where you’re going with this.
– [Paige] Yeah, but Maleficent- the entire plot of Maleficent is the relationship
between her and Aurora. – [Sarah] Yeah, Frozen never questions
the idea that true love’s kiss exists. – [Paige] Right.
– [Sarah] Or that true love exists. I mean on the one hand, it’s trying to just
keep you in suspense because they don’t want you to know that Hans is the
villain, but Maleficent has this interesting kind of aspect of it that
part of the cruelty of Maleficent’s original conception of the curse is it’s
a way to get back at Stefan for telling her – [Narrator] It was True Love’s Kiss. – [Sarah] It’s a way of her throwing it back in his face like, “There’s this thing that you lied to me
about, and you used that and now it’s coming back to bite you.”
– [Paige] But she makes that caveat believing in her heart that true love doesn’t exist. true love
– [Both] doesn’t exist. – [Sarah] And I think that
that makes it a bit more interesting. Having watched it all the way through.
with a couple of years you know distance from that trend, I like it and I
still do. I think that it is a bit undercut. I think the power in that
subversion of the true love’s kiss thing, being an only romantic thing and love at
first sight existing, is that Aurora’s really only sleep for ten minutes! There’s no danger! – [Paige] There’s a pacing problem towards the end.
– [Sarah] There’s a pacing problem towards the end! – [Paige] They’re like “We gotta wrap things up.”
– [Sarah] Things happen very quickly. – [Paige] “We’re done with this movie.
We gotta wrap it all up!” – [Sarah] I wish that she’d gotten to turn into the dragon,
– [Paige] I know! – [Sarah] It would’ve been really cool.
– [Paige] I know. – [Sarah] I mean I don’t care that much
about it. It’s not like I’m morally like offended because
Maleficent- “Let women turn into dragons!” It’s not about that it’s just I
think it would have been cool seeing her turn into a dragon.
– [Paige] Yeah. – [Sarah] Like, that’s all it is. And honestly it
would have been pretty easy to fix, I think, if we just swapped a couple of things.
– [Paige] Yeah, you had mentioned swapping the action fight sequence with the kiss sequence.
– [Sarah] Yeah. – [Paige] And then we as were watching it we ran into
the issue of Aurora finding the wings to give Maleficent her wings back.
And then I came up with the solution of having Stefan be knocked out during the fight, finding Aurora, saving Aurora, and Stefan
finds them after the fight and tries to continue to attack Maleficent because he
has nothing left. Which makes it even more sad because Aurora would be in the
room for that as well. – [Sarah] Yeah I mean Stefan
kind of descends into madness fueled by paranoia that Maleficent will come back and and kill him one of these days.
– [Paige] And that she’s cursed his only heir. – [Sarah] Yeah. The only heir that, by the time that
she actually makes it back to him, he’s so far gone that he did not seem to care
about her. He does not care about her at all. It undercuts how well-deserved that
twist in the true love’s kiss story is for them to immediately go to this huge
battle. There’s very little quiet in which Aurora gets woken up and they have
a very little amount of time before Maleficent gets attacked by Stefan and
we get very preoccupied. – [Paige] And I think your idea of switching the scenes
also enhances this idea that she’s going to the castle to save her Aurora.
– [Sarah] Yeah. – [Paige] And if she has to get through Stefan first, she’ll do it not because she is
continuing to take out revenge on Stefan but because she cares that much about Aurora. – [Sarah] I don’t think it needed to adhere to the original story but I think that
would have been one of the places where it could have and it would have been fine. Aurora pricks her finger, falls asleep,
and then there’s a good portion of the movie where she is asleep-
– [Paige] and the fairies are
breaking Philip out of jail and he goes and fights Maleficent
– [Sarah] And he fights- the dragon
fight and those flames and thorns and…it’s very cool, if you haven’t seen
Sleeping Beauty, check it out. After that big fight we have the falling action of
Philip kissing Aurora and waking her up, and we have that satisfying end and cool
down from that big fight. – [Paige] Right, I have just a really
quick thing: I think you said it last… or I think you said earlier today that like
Sleeping Beauty in particular relies on the idea that Phillip
and Aurora are destined to be together. Because a lot of people will complain
about like, “Oh they don’t even know each “other, and he’s just like not even asking
for consent.” I’m like, “You want her to “stay asleep forever?” This is a situation
that does not translate to real life. – [Sarah] I remember what you’re
talking about. Yes, there is the issue of consent. You know, don’t kiss
people when they’re sleeping. Don’t do stuff like that. It really helps that we
don’t exist in a world where sleeping curses are real. Talk to your kids about
consent. Like, there can be both! There can be both!
– [Paige] Right. Right. Right. – [Sarah] But I think that one of the
big things about the original Sleeping Beauty, is that like it’s not creepy
because the story completely believes that like Aurora and Phillip are true
love, and therefor them meeting is not weird but romantic because they’re soulmates.
And like that’s part of the room that you have in a fairy tale and a love story. – [Paige] Maleficent acknowledges that as a trope
but then like horse stomps all over it and is like, “No, no, no. They don’t know each other.” – [Sarah] Especially ’cause, like, yeah. They completely changed that scene.
– [Paige] He is, you know, a 16 year old boy and he’s like, “Wow! A pretty girl in the woods! I just want to talk to her. Hi!” And she’s like, “Oh hey I’ve never…
talked to a boy before. It’s fine.” – [Sarah] It’s a cute- it’s a very
cute interaction between the two of them. It’s very sweet, and I
actually think it’s very interesting that they’ve decided to do a sequel like
so many years later and they’re like, “Just now they’re getting married!” The Spiderwick
Chronicles CGI characters were a bit weird. what You know what? It’s just occurred to me that maybe
some of those are references to like her weird Goblin lackeys… – [Paige] Right.
– [Sarah] …in the original movie, – [Paige] Yeah.
– [Sarah] but I don’t think they work well enough. I mean you could
have just gotten rid of ’em. – [Paige] The Goblin Lackeys…
– [Sarah] Just stick ’em in the trash bin. There’s like a scene towards the end I think
we’re like Phillip shows up as well and Phillip and Aurora like talking to each
other and there’s just this thing that looks like the mucus animation from the
Mucinex commercials and it’s like very clearly on a different layer
and I think we could have just- whoop! Dropped it out of the frame. We didn’t need it!
– [Paige] I think you broke me. But none of these things are so bad,
that I think the movie’s bad as a result. – [Paige] Right. What I think is interesting about the fact that they’re doing its
sequel now is that they end the movie with Aurora being like essentially
coronated in the Moors, but the next movie is like, “No, no. She’s she’s the
princess. There.” There’s another lady coming in to take care of
her even though she’s getting married!
– [Sarah] Michelle Pfeiffer! – [Paige] Who is this woman?!
– [Sarah] Well, she seems to be Philips mom? – [Paige] I can only assume so.
– [Sarah] I don’t know. – [Paige] And I think the last thing that I really
wanted to talk about was something that we talked about last night, and it’s just
speculation. I’m not trying to blame anybody in particular. But you know this
movie was at the start of the Disney live-action remakes. I see a lot more
negative comments about it than positive comments about it.
– [Sarah] Especially from Disney fans, – [Paige] Right.
– [Sarah] Which I find fascinating because there are so many Disney
fans who love the new live-action remake of the Renaissance movies, which
are just terrible movies! – [Paige] And like comparatively they’re actual trash.
– [Sarah] Yeah! – [Paige] And we just kind of speculated like… was the decision to make shot-for-shot remakes not necessarily just based on Maleficent,
but based on this kind of backlash against deviation from the original
Disney movie? – [Sarah] Yeah. It’s nice that they tried to do something completely
creative and different. – [Sarah] And I think that a lot of people really
wish that that’s what these Disney movie remakes we’re trying to do and they’re not.
– [Paige] I know that’s what we wish – [Sarah] Yeah.
– [Paige] they were doing. – [Sarah] I mean, a lot of critics feel that way too.
– [Paige] It is a solid movie. It is one of the best “remakes”
that Disney has put out so far. – [Sarah] It’s not even that it tries to do something different and it fails because of
structural problems. I think it tries to do something different it succeeds.
– [Paige] Yeah. – [Sarah] If you haven’t watched it, I mean… and you’ve been holding off because you’ve
heard it’s really bad, I mean, give it a chance. Make your- form your
own opinion and if you don’t like it, let us know
why! We’re genuinely interested, and please be specific.
– [Paige] Particularly because the channel was built on the retaliation against very broad statements
against Disney movies that were just regurgitating over and over and over
again. So just keep that in mind! – [Sarah] And we want to know, we want to understand
if you hate this movie. I mean it might not- you might not change our minds and that’s fine.
– [Paige] You’re probably not gonna change my mind!
– [Sarah] But you might broaden our understanding of the ways that the movie can be interpreted. So we’re very
interested to hear what you guys think! – [Paige] Thank you so much for watching this
video! If you liked it, click the bell below so you don’t miss any of our
future videos, including the rest of our five-year anniversary celebration! We
don’t really have a name for it yet, but anyway, it’s happening! We’ve been here
for five years. We’re not going anywhere soon, so you stuck with us! – [Sarah] One of us will see
you real soon! [Dog barking off screen]
– [Paige] Oh! – [Sarah] Oh no!
– [Paige] Reggie! [Both laugh] – [Sarah] Can you imagine Kristen
Wiig playing Snow White? – [Paige] No! No I can’t! Turn him into a phoenix…or a second dragon, a smaller dragon!”
– [Sarah] Why would that- What is she gonna do with a Phoenix, Paige?
– [Paige, laughing] I don’t know! – [Sarah] She’s like, “I’m finally
getting rid of you, Diaval! [Paige laughs harder]
“Light yourself on fire! Come back as a baby!” He’s gonna fly too close to Stefan
and set him on fire!
– [Paige] Oh my god! [Both laugh] – [Paige] I got it, I made a mistake!