-I don’t know what happened. -We used to get together, we just used to have a good time, just you know, relax, let our hair down, have dinner at the house, watching movies with the kids. We went to Mexico, that was your first time going out of the country. -Yup. -Y’alls didn’t have to, it wasn’t a wedding it was like, a celebration of an anniversary. And I think that trip I noticed that you was changing a little bit. I don’t know, like I think that was a turning point for you. -What was the change you felt like? -I felt like, you know, we was taking pictures and you were yelling ‘Tisha, tell them you don’t wanna do it.’ -Say what now? -The girls pictures, when we was taking the group pictures. -Outside on the dock. -I didn’t want to take the pictures? But I brought the swimsuit for the pictures that you said we were taking. -It was hot and she had us posing like fifty-million ways, and you didn’t wanna take the picture, and I said, ‘Mel, this is not about you, this is for Tisha.’ -Really? Okay. -Them pictures was waring the hell out of you. -I don’t remember feeling like that. -That was the turning point, in our relationship. -So that was how many years ago? Like oh my gosh! -So let me get it clear, you being told that I was complaining on your ten year vow renewal about pictures… -Mhmm. -Something you never brought to me, and said to me, or asked me about, and you allowed that to be a turning point in our friendship? That’s sucky. -No, I’m saying I think that’s when you started changing. I noticed a change the change in you then. -Okay so what was the other change? -What did we do in 2017? -Nothing. -We don’t have any memories in 2017. -We just stopped hanging. -Really? -Yeah. -You elevated yourself to here, and you’re just elevated. This Mel is different from the Mel that we met initially. -I can’t help that I am moving in my career and– -And that’s okay. But don’t hate on me when I say that it’s different. -The problem is when you’re bougie about it. MUSIC -Bougie? I’m really offended. To me bougie is someone who holds their head up looks down on others and that’s not who I am. Okay, so that’s what I want to hear. I cannot understand your point if you don’t tell me how I’m bougie. Or how I’m not down to earth. Do you recall when you wanted
us to go to one of the galas around Christmastime
and my response was, I don’t feel like being bougie. I want to be with my family. Like, I don’t want to
spend all my time– Oh, why I gotta be
concerned bougie because you don’t want to go to galas? Just so we’re clear–
[INTERPOSING VOICES] But this is what I’m saying! You ask for examples,
and when you get them– You’re getting it.
I hear you. –you don’t want them. No, I hear you. Now, I’m not going
to change anything about it, because, like you
say all the time, hey, Kimmy. With Kimmy, what you
see is what you get. I am who I am.
– And it is. And that’s exactly correct. And that’s the
same thing with me! The difference is I own it.
[INTERPOSING VOICES] Well I’m not finna
only say I’m bougie. I’m sorry.
– There’s the difference. I own it. I don’t know why,
because you are. What makes a person bougie? Uh, look in the mirror.