Let’s Throw Shamu a Retirement Party | Naomi A. Rose | TEDxBend


Translator: Ilze Garda
Reviewer: Denise RQ I’d like to talk about family,
the topic, I think, we can all relate to. I imagine we would all agree
that having a loving family makes us stronger, more secure,
and more confident. Even as adults, you probably consider
your parents and siblings among the most important
people in your lives. And if you grow up
without a functional family, you might carry
emotional scars as an adult. But I’m not talking about people,
I’m talking about killer whales, or orcas. Now, most people
know orcas from seeing them in marine theme park shows
like this one at SeaWorld. This is the image people think of
when they think killer whale, they think Shamu. But I believe that orcas
don’t belong in captivity because this destroys family, which for orcas is probably even more
than for us, it’s everything. I want to tell you
about orca families in the wild to help you understand
why it’s important for us to retire Shamu – both the character
and the real whales who play the role. Some of you may have heard
of the film “Blackfish”, or the books “Death at sea world”
and “Beneath the surface”. They came to the same conclusion
that orcas don’t belong in captivity, but I’m going to focus
on orcas’ social structure because I believe it’s the main reason that orcas do not
and cannot thrive in captivity. Obvious arguments
against keeping orcas in captivity are that they are large,
far-swimming, and deep-diving. They can reach 30 miles per hour,
and they can travel 100 miles in a day. They are going to suffer
when they are put into small spaces. Every orca population has
a distinct diet and language, these are learned cultural differences. Orcas have their cultural identities
stripped from them in captivity. They can live a long time,
into their 30s, 40s, 50s, even their 90s. There is a whale off the coast
here in the Pacific Northwest who is believed to be over 100 years old. But in captivity,
most don’t make it past 25. They are intelligent. There’s still scientific debate
as to how smart is smart, but they have long memories, they can certainly understand
complicated signals from their trainers, and they can recognize
themselves in a mirror, which is a form of self-awareness, the ability to distinguish oneself
as separate from others. It’s a rare ability in animals, and it’s one we, humans, don’t develop
until we are two or three years old. I can assure you that these whales
are thinking about those people, I have no idea what (Laughter) but they are thinking. These intelligent beings are living
in bare, boring enclosures in captivity whose only similarity
to the ocean is saltwater. But the most remarkable thing
about orcas is their families. This interaction is meant
to illustrate the loving bond between a trainer and a captive charge. The marine theme parks refer to
the trainers and the whales as family. But this isn’t family. This is a family. This is a mom and her sons and daughters.
Her mother, her brothers and sisters. The tall, straight dorsal fin
belongs to an adult male, and he is traveling with his mother. Orca society is matriarchal with females
as the naturally dominant sex, even though the males are far larger. Even more remarkable,
female orcas experience menopause, which is actually pretty rare phenomena
in the animal kingdom. Usually both males and females
have biological value only as long as they can reproduce, and they die soon after their
reproductive system stop functioning. But what if a mother’s continued
presence in her children’s lives helps them survive or reproduce? Personally, I couldn’t have gotten
through graduate school or bought my first home
without help from my mother. So menopause evolves in species
with close-knit families where older females have value, whether it’s through knowledge of reliable
fishing grounds in orcas, for example, which recent research
has provided evidence for, or direct help with raising
grandkids, say. Now, the older a male orca is, the more successful he is
at fathering offspring, and a recent discovery based
on years of data has determined males with living mothers live longer. So the longer mom lasts – up to 50 years past the end
of her reproductive life in orcas – the more grandkids and sons will sire. Up to four generations
can travel together. Daughters who do associate
with their mums throughout their lives start spending less time with her
when they’re busy with their own kids. As for sons, they will spend
up to 70% of their time within one body length of their mother
until the day she dies. (Laughter) The only other example
I can think of in mammals where a son is that close to his mom is
probably in some human societies, right? (Laughter) The nerdy guy who lives
in his mom’s basement…(Laughter) Male orcas are six-ton mama’s boys. (Laughter) But they don’t mate
with their mothers and sisters. This was determined by taking skin samples
and doing genetic relatedness testing. That’s pretty remarkable. A male will live with his female
relatives his entire life, but just as in most human
societies, incest is a tabu. He will only mate
outside his immediate family. Now, it’s possible that some moms
introduce their sons to nice girls (Laughter) like my Jewish grandma
did with her three boys, but unlike my father and my uncles, it’s probable that orca sons recognize
a good deal when they see it, and, you know, let their mom
hook them up. (Laughter) But there is no paternal care in orcas. An outside male will come in,
he’ll get some, and he goes home to his mom. (Laughter) There’s still the requirement of a family, you need a village to raise an orca calf. The older brothers and sisters
will babysit their younger siblings, I think that is really cool,
this gives the mom a break, it teaches daughters
valuable motherhood skills, and it’s a way for
those mama’s boys to pay their rent. (Laughter) But what about those older
postmenopausal females? Well, they have value not just for their
knowledge or the help with grandkids, they play the role of Mrs. Robinson, little old ladies
and adolescent boys have sex. (Laughter) Because let’s face it,
adolescent boys are disruptive, all those hormones surging
and nowhere to go because eligible females
won’t give them the time of day. It’s usually young male mammals who get the itch to leave
the home territory, but in orcas, postmenopausal females will scratch that itch,
without fear of pregnancy, so adolescent males are less disruptive,
and they can stay at home. (Laughter) Now, my graduate research
described the all-male group. This is where male relatives
and their friends of all ages get together and socialize occasionally. They work out their aggressions
with mutual, ritualized interactions. Sounds familiar? They play football, they box,
they go down to the bar for a beer. This helps them avoid
real male-male aggression like you’ll see in other mammals
during the mating season. Now, what I’ve just described
doesn’t fit all orca populations, there are some that are more like us: the kids grow up and do move out,
but they come home to visit occasionally. Their family ties are looser,
but they still exist. Captivity destroys all of that. Some captive orcas are held alone,
like this one in Miami. Others are held in groups of whales
from different families, different cultures,
entirely different oceans. They would never even meet,
let alone live together, in the wild. They grow up without knowing
proper social etiquette. Males who have no postmenopausal females
to train them can be violent when mating. Dominant females can assert
their dominance with unnatural violence. This is Kandu who in 1989
attacked another female so violently that she broke her own jaw, severed
an artery and bled out in minutes. That is blood spraying from her blowhole. This level of aggressive interactions
has never been observed in the wild. And it’s not just dominant females. This is Nakai, a young male, who received this injury
which goes down to the jawbone after an altercation
with other whales in his tank. The facility that holds them
claims that he was wounded when he hit his chin on some bit
of concrete or metal in his tank, but there is nothing in his enclosure that is sharp enough
to have done this damage, except the teeth of another orca. Adult males without families
have no social status, no social protection,
no social role other than stud. This can lead
to frustration and aggression with trainers and other whales. This is Tilikum, the whale
featured in the film “Blackfish” who in 2010 mauled and killed
his longtime trainer Dawn Brancheau. His life has been one
of an unending frustration, and in the 32 years
that he’s been in captivity, he has killed three people. But he is not the only
killer killer whale in captivity. A male named Keto killed
his trainer in Spain, Alexis Martinez, only 9 weeks before Brancheau died. Yet, throughout history,
despite their reputation, there are no records of wild killer whales
killing humans beings. Captive orcas have committed incest,
with at least one known case of a son mating with his mother
and producing a daughter-sister. For me, this is the most horrible difference
between wild and captive whales, it shows just how abnormal they are. Captive sons never learn
they shouldn’t mate with their mother, and captive mothers never learn
they shouldn’t let them. Young females are bred far too early, when they’re physically,
but not socially or emotionally ready. They are children having children, and these days it’s often done
through artificial insemination. They don’t know how to be proper mothers,
so they sometimes reject their calves. Instead of this – a calf being raised
surrounded by family – captive orcas have this: limited space, and few
or no family members to help them learn how to be orcas. Or still, they might have this. This young whale was captured
in the Sea of Okhotsk, in Russia. Captures of wild orcas have ended
essentially decades ago, but recently, Russia
is taking up the trade again. In the past three years, 10 young whales
have been ripped from their families and sold into the marine theme park
industry in Russia and China. What we do here in the US
sets an example abroad, and in this case isn’t a good one. Now, there are some
good orca moms in captivity. They have several calves successfully,
and they raise them devotedly. But they are not rewarded
for that devotion. Many times the calves are taken from her to be shipped to some other facility
for management purposes, when they’re still profoundly
dependent on her, sometimes when they are
as young as two or three years old. That’s exactly the same as taking
a toddler from his or her mom. Think about that. We all have family. How can it be morally right
for us to do to others, even when those others aren’t human, something that we would consider
devastating if it happened to us? That comparison isn’t anthropomorphism, it’s empathy. Now, there are only 56 orcas
in captivity in the entire world, we can fix this problem. But with the recent resumption
of captures in Russia, we need to act now. So how can you help? When you’re talking with your own family, and you’re considering
where to go on your family trips, think about whether you want to spend
your money at a marine theme park now that you know what you know
about the whales’ remarkable families. Consumer choice is
a powerful force for change. After “Blackfish” aired on CNN in 2013, SeaWorld’s annual attendance dropped
by more than 1,000,000 visitors. (Applause) And its stock price dropped almost 50%. Write to marine theme parks
and tell them you support the gradual phasing out
of orca exhibits and shows. We’re not asking for anything radical,
we’re trying to be reasonable about this. Tell them you support the retirement of the currently
captive orcas to sanctuaries, and while you’re at it, please,
tell them you support that for the other captive whale
and dolphin species too. Captive display of orcas began
with good intentions, but that was 50 years ago, before we knew anything
about these whales in the wild. And now we do know, so we have to change. These magnificent mammals
do not deserve a life in a concrete box. We need to leave them
and protect them in the real sea world, instead of forcing them to live in ours. Because family is everything. Thank you. (Applause)

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  1. Don't support animal cruelty… teach your children to respect nature and animals. We only have one planet and it's dying!!!

  2. White people love to bitch about how other races are cruel to animals…. hypocrites. Not to mention most of the Native species in White lands are now extinct.

  3. This speaker is correct. The only way to stop this behavior from happening is to force these parks out of the market by stopping their cash flow.

  4. Dr. Naomi Rose, you are inspiring! Thank you for all the work you've done and continue to do on behalf of cetaceans.

    To everyone who respects nature and animals, please help stop captivity. PLEASE DON'T BUY A TICKET.

  5. "That comparison isn't anthropomorphism; it's empathy…"

    THANK YOU
    This has been screaming inside of me as long as I can remember. I find it honestly insane – and very very convenient – that we find it more illogical to assume that other living beings (especially social ones) do not feel the basic emotions that we feel, rather than assuming that they don't and calling anything other than that anthropomorphism.

  6. Powerful video Dr Rose!  I am sharing your video as I've been similar videos & articles to let the orcas go!  How would these same humans feel if they were treated the same way as they have treated the imprisoned orcas?

  7. Great video. I would personally recommend 'death at SeaWorld', it is a great book. Also watch 'a fall from freedom'-it provides great context to the debate.

  8. The anthropmorphism of animals is the foundation of Seaworld's business model. Orcas doing choreography to pop music. Sea lions performing human roles and reduced to grotesque vaudevillian buffoons in Seaworld's parody shows. One of the most important lessons of Dawn Brancheau's death is that, moments before she was attacked by the distressed orca that killed and dismembered her, the orca was performing a cute "dance" with Dawn and giving her a "high five." The chipper announcer was saying things like "there's a whole lotta dancing going on" and "that feels really good I bet" and the crowd was cooing and laughing appreciatively at what seemed like an animal happily playing with its trainer… This is a wake up call for us to look deeper than our instinctive reaction to the "happy behavior" of the captive animals in these shows, to confront the reality that we've always known but that is too easily lulled by our delight at an enthralling spectacle: that the endearing human-like shows of affection in animal shows are trained behaviors, acts that they've been conditioned to perform in order to get food. We know that they're not displaying the same spontaneous gestures of emotion at precisely the same time at precisely the same cue day after day and year after year, we know that it's not within their nature to make these gestures to express the emotions we associate with them as humans- but we let ourselves be captivated by the illusion.

  9. Naomi is sending me some contradictory messages here. Last June, she participated in a debate with a SeaWorld veterinarian and one of the trainers from SeaWorld of San Diego. If you recall, the topic of shaved down teeth came up. Todd Robeck (SeaWorld's veterinarian) brought pictures of an offshore orca in the Atlantic with shaved down teeth, and a research paper published about the worn down teeth. Now Naomi and Todd got into an argument over if the teeth were shaved down or not. Naomi states that the wild, offshore orcas teeth were not "worn down to the gum", as you might see in some SeaWorld whales. But here she brought up the issue of Nakai's chin. SeaWorld's statement on it is that he scraped his chin on the bottom of a gate. Naomi says that "there is nothing sharp enough in the tank to do that damage except another whale's teeth". But Naomi, just under a year ago, you told us that captive orcas teeth were worn to the gums. So which is it? Are their teeth sharp enough to rip chunks out of other whales or are they worn to the gum line? Also, she brings up the topic of under-aged breeding. She states that it is often done through artificial insemination. But it doesn't take much online research to see how false this is. Artificial insemination has been used 6 times since 2001. Kasatka gave birth to Nakai at about age 25 in 2001. Takara gave birth to Kohana at the age of almost 11 (this could be argued as a few years too early). The next was Wikie giving birth to Moana in 2011 when she was 10 years old. Kasatka gave birth to Makani in 2013 at the age of approximately 36 years old. Takara gave birth to Kamea in 2013, at the age of 22 years old. Kali gave birth to Amaya in 2014 at almost 10 years old (this could be argued as premature also). However Kalia was reported being receptive to the male who fathered her calf, Ulises. So there is only two whales here who could be argued as "under-aged", but Takara was almost at her natural age to begin the ability to have a calf, and Kalia was witnessed being receptive to a the bull male she was AI'd with. In the Southern Residents there is a whale named J41 Eclipse, who recently gave birth last December at the age of 9. J41 would have been only barely 8 years old at the time of her child's conception. Just some things I noticed while watching the video.

  10. We have been following the Change.Org petition to stop BA selling trips to Seaworld for this very reason. We want to shame the selfish greedy bosses of Seaworld into realising how barbaric the captivity of Orcas is! They are stubborn businessmen who don't give a crap about the welfare of these amazing beings. It makes me cry when I see Black Fish and know people have lost their lives due to the mess they have created for profit.

  11. Naomi Rose make incredible claims, yet has never actually worked with Orcas and has only studied them from a distance and through other scientist's work.   Naomi was also part of the failed Keiko project that led to the untimely death of Keiko who was sick starving and alone after she tried to free him.  

    Why anyone would take her advice is baffling, and I am disappointed that TED would feature someone with such a radical view point and who uses such anthropomorphism  in her "scientific talk"

  12. Not only will I not patronize these radical animal rights groups like HSUS and PETA, but I will not patronize the Deschutes Brewery that made this schlock possible.

  13. sad to see people be able to make all these claims without actual proof to back them up! it's great to be a professional fundraiser…

  14. Hypocrisy,  is Ms. Rose's middle name.  Still pushing her agenda over the actual welfare of animals. The reason she knows so little truth regarding captive care,  is that her experience in limited to exercises where the animal winds up dead. Killing Keiko anyone?

  15. Absolutely disagree completely on all fronts.  I grew up without a family and I happen to have a Master's Degree and doing quite well for myself.   Bad Sociology, Bad Psychology, Bad  Zoology, Bad Biology and Bad taste all together.  As someone with several scholarly articles under her belt – it's total rubbish and psudo-science when hard science is available and ignored.  Documentation is sketchy to give a benefit of a doubt.  At least she has decent grammar. That's about all I can say.  Oh and she looks really pretty with her hear and makeup done nicely.  I bet someone did it for her.  But anything that comes out of her mouth I stand totally in disagreement with her. Academically this is a total waste of time.  There's nothing to see here… move on…..  ( my what people will say and do to get their face on YouTube – shesh!).   Barb bag ….

  16. Ms Rose may have spent years studying cetaceans in captivity but has she studied what the effects would have releasing these animals to sea pens etc? Her release of Keiko I would say did not go very well. When you release these orcas, dolphins etc to sea pens you are taking them out of environments where the water is constantly monitored and kept at safe levels at SeaWorld in the sea pens you will be exposing them to viruses, pathogenic bacteria and fungi, and parasites that they are not able to survive against. Its downright wrong to do this. She releases these animals its an instant death sentence for all. SeaWorld is fully accredited by AZA, IMATA, Government agencies and more and to belong to these groups require very strict guidelines and inspections all of which SeaWorld passes. Of the animal facilities licensed in this country by the United States Department of Agriculture, less than 10 percent have proven to meet these standards that SeaWorld does. That shows you right there how well SeaWorld cares for their animals.

  17. Another pathetic piece of drivel
    From a person who has never worked with orca
    Just leave it to the experts please

  18. Naomi Rose is a very scary individual. I just find it odd that someone who has never worked with Orcas thinks their OPINION is in any way, shape or form relevant to this issue. She needs to take a step back and let real doctors, scientists and marine biologists do their job and focus on killer whales struggling to survive in the wild. You know, whales who ACTUALLY need help. Naomi is an activist, nothing more. When activists "win" in these situations, something like this (click link) happens so if you want to see all of SeaWorld's whales struggle to survive and likely die then by all means, show your whale-murdering side and support Miss Rose's cause. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/zoo-gorilla-family-freed-to-wild-60-minutes/

  19. Read "Death at Sea World". It goes into much more details of Sea World shady practices. Blackfish just scratches the surface.

  20. Funny seeing Eric Davis here making negative comments. It's not a coincidence that he's paid by Seaworld to promote them. Seriously Davis, you're tedious. Nobody takes you seriously. Keiko was over 20 years ago – the world, science on cetaceans in captivity and rehab and release has moved on. You're not credible, get it! Now get back in your box and let people who know what they're talking about, get on with it.

  21. Dr. Rose didn't kill Keiko. Keiko lived 5 years  in freedom. Keiko only died as a money making machine for those who would have continued exploiting him for another 10, 20, 30 years or whatever longer he would have made it trapped among cement walls.

  22. While I am sure Naomi Rose is passionate about her views, she seems to be swaying more to the extremist side of things. I'd have thought that someone with a PhD and her educational background would rely more on science and fact than hype and propaganda. She doesn't present herself as a professional who can be taken seriously when she lends her support to silly stunts like this. It's unfortunate that she's using her position to destroy a world-class organization rather than lend her scientific expertise to the preservation of endangered wild Orca populations.

  23. I encourage this audience to research the research that has been done on these animals in captivity that has benefitted whales in the wild. SeaWorld rescues, rehabs and RETURNS thousands of animals each year and is COMPLETELY governed and directed by GOVERNMENT agencies. GO SEAWORLD! I support you!

  24. At this point I am baffled that there is still a debate going on as to whether captivity of marine mammals is right or wrong. Anyone who really loves and really wanted to see Orcas would surely prefer to see them in their natural environment anyway? So hope the sea sancturies start happening soon. Great supporter of Dr. Naomi Rose and her work

  25. I truly wish you would get your facts correct before slamming Shamu and SW.  Why don't you and all your anticap friends retire and just let this topic go!

  26. One of the most effective and comprehensive talks ever delivered on orca cognizance; their intricate family structures, social dependencies and complexities.

    Dr. Rose manages to express the highly complex needs of orca in just fifteen minutes, making this talk as elegant as it is important.

    "I do not know what they are thinking but they are thinking"

    FIVE STARS! Hoping to see more of Dr. Rose on TedTalk.

  27. Dr. Naomi Rose has spent her career studying orca habits, family structure, behaviors and environments in the wild. She has written several scientific, peer-reviewed papers on her findings, spoken in legislature (incl for Bill AB2140) and is exceptionally qualified to understand why these large sentient mammals are not suited to captivity. I am not a Ph.D nor a marine mammal biologist like she is but I can say she is above reproach in her words – written and spoken – because I've done my research. I've read the articles and listened to several of her speaking engagements.. and she can back up – scientifically – everything she writes and says. She is a scientist first and foremost. Her reputation is stellar, which is why TEDx invited her to their stage. I hope you'll watch this and form your own opinion. Enjoy.. it's an excellent 15 min talk.

  28. this was one of the best most thought out speeches ever discussed about animals in captivity. the reason the ticket buyers have a problem with this video is because Common Sense was used, along with facts.  the animals do not belong in tanks. everyone knows this.  today everyone knows how important their family is as important as our own. so eric davis, you and your gang know you are on a downward spiral. you know those animals do not belong in those tanks.  one day you will appreciate the wild and when you do, you wont ever accept captivity again   #dontbuyaticket   #blackfish

  29. Dr. Rose, you are truly my hero. Thank you for advocating for these magnificent beings who deserve to live in their God given habitat, the ocean. Your speech touched me deeply with its strong message of family.

  30. Thank you for such an inspiring presentation about the lives of orca – it underscores the moral imperative that we stop destroying their families and give them due respect  as nations unto themselves.

  31. Naomi Rose is the celebrity for the anti cap movement who has very few peer reviewed articl. When I confronted her about this, she blocked me on facebook. You would think she would be much more open to a conversation. However, if it doesn't fit the anti cap agenda, it doesn't matter.

  32. Dr. Rose

    How do you establish any reasonable assessment of discomfort or stress without comparing some objective measure of the like in both captive and wild groups? Until then you are just reading tea leaves. Might I suggest using base cortisol in both groups, as measures for assessing this stress hormone are currently being developed in zoos?

    Thanks,
    J. Bruck

  33. Dr. Rose is clearly an intelligent and well spoken woman. However, it is disheartening to me that she would even be considered for inclusion in the TedX talks. The discussion regarding orcas (or any other animal) in zoological facilities is complex to say the least. Dr. Rose has a long history of pushing her personal (and questionable) agenda by preying upon the general public who rely on her as an expert in regards to caring for marine mammals in zoological facilities, namely orcas. She relies on people who have the best intentions to take her half stories, out of context data, and personal opinions as balanced information and science. She relies on people to not take the time to do their own research into all sides of this very complex issue. Unfortunately many have fallen prey to Dr. Rose's agenda. Dr. Rose does have experience with observational research with some populations of wild orcas as well as, experience reviewing data from other researchers. Dr. Rose has no experience or expertise in caring for orcas in a zoological setting. Schooling for biologists includes extremely limited to literally no information on how to properly care for orcas or any other animal in managed care settings. For Dr. Rose to lead anyone of us to believe that she has an understanding of the care and training for orcas in a zoological setting is a plain and simple lie. She demonstrated her lack of understanding and knowledge of the care of orcas with her "expertise" during Keiko's release. Dr. Rose is an intelligent and driven woman. In Keiko's case, Dr. Rose's agenda took precedence over the health and well being of the animal. Her "expert advice" to release Keiko is ultimately what killed him. Her "tough love" approach is what made Keiko starve to death. She has yet to admit this fault to the public that relies on her as an expert. The reality is that Dr. Rose has never known or understood orcas on the level that zoological professionals do. If she did, she would understand how well these animals live under human care (not at all facilities but, at top notch facilities such as SeaWorld). She would also understand how important it is for the public to have the opportunity to experience these animals first hand. I agree that whale watching is inspirational and motivating. But, the reality is that  the vast majority of people will never have the opportunity to see an orca in the wild. Places like SeaWorld offer the public the opportunity to experience these animals in ways that are not possible (or ethical) to do from a whale watching boat. From a boat, you're lucky to see more than a glimpse of a dorsal fin. At SeaWorld, you can look an orca in the eye, feel the animals power from a splash, and catch a glimpse into the "personality" of the whales as they interact with each other an trainers. Not all people are inspired to care and learn about these animals on their own. Many people don't care to learn but they care to be entertained.Many people will not go to a museum or lecture but, they will go to be entertained at places like SeaWorld. They need places like SeaWorld to serve as a catalyst for them to care and to actively participate in conservation. These entertaining experiences are vital to inspire all of us to care about and conserve nature. Dr. Rose (and other activists) selfishly want to take that away from all of us because it makes them feel better about themselves and not because it is what's best for the animals or for truly conserving our natural world. Zoological facilities such as SeaWorld are the real activists. They have inspired more people to protect and conserve the natural world, have actively participated in conservation activities that have made a real and positive impact for animals than Dr. Rose and all of the other activists have made combined. I urge everyone to not take one person's information as the whole story. Research for yourselves. Know who you are getting information from and what the motivation behind the information actually is. Don't let Dr. Rose or any other activist think for you. If all of the passion and energy that is being exerted against SeaWorld was exerted towards real conservation efforts there would be much bigger strides made that would actually make a difference to the natural world. Gather ALL of the information for yourself and form your own opinion. I learned this the hard way. I once thought that Dr. Rose was an expert in killer whale care. I looked to her as the expert. Upon further and well rounded investigation, I learned that there is a lot more to the story behind zoological facilities and behind Dr. Rose that needed to be considered in order to form an educated,fair, and real opinion. I'm glad that I did.

  34. They can't survive in the wild first of all dr rose refuses to realize that they are no longer wild they can no longer hunt . There pods will reject them because they do not recognize them. They are to dependent on humans and will be for the rest of there lives. Please read killing Keko thank you

  35. What a bunch of tear jerking garbage. This lady needs to give it up already. She wants SW to go out of business and the whales put in sea pens. That equals death for them and she knows it,. But she doesn't care she just wants her way. Keiko all over again!

  36. I know TED isn't always the most scientific, but to anthropomorphisize the way this woman does is shameful to biologists and animal enthusiasts everywhere.

  37. Wow. Great speech. If only everyone could understand the impact captivity has on these animals family's.

  38. It sure would be nice if you pro captivity people would WATCH THE VIDEO so you know what's it really about rather than making disparaging comments about Dr Rose who IS a marine mammal SCIENTIST. You just show your ignorance when it's obvious you didn't even watch the video.

  39. Dr rose knows more about orcas than anyone and has been fighting for their wellbeing for years. Those of you that think a sea world "trainer" is an animal expert should seriously do some research done by someone OTHER than $ea world. Ignorance is not helpful to the orcas enslaved in marine parks.

  40. Perfect, thank you so much, I agree with everything you said – and you said it so much better than I could have…

  41. Thank you, Dr. Rose.  Anyone with an ounce of empathy and intelligence knows that cetaceans do not belong in captivity.  SeaWorld needs to change its business model, they should stick to being an amusement park and stop trying to be a "zoological facility".

  42. Thank you, Dr. Naomi Rose for your presentation, here, at Tedx Talks.Great respects to a professional marine mammal scientist that has put in over 20 years of experience for the protection and welfare of these beautiful and intellectual Beings. Your credits tells us that you have been long standing with The Humane Societyof U.S. and Humane Society International. With your 2 years or more with marine mammal protection for the Animal Welfare Institute, you have, always, been professional and respectful to others.
    I enjoyed listening to your informative speeches. A very dignified lady.
    And, for those whom disagree with other negative statements…I will compose myself of not returning to your comments. What I see here on the threads is not worth my voice to you that disrespects Dr. Rose. She deserves better than this. I salute you, Dr. Naomi Rose! Please, continue your "excellent" works. Always <3

  43. Please pay attention to when you click on the like symbol that the number changes upward. If it doesn't….wait several seconds for the site to catch up and try again. Higher intelligence according to the likes….nearly 6 to 1. Poor ignorant people who haven't a clue that these magnificent animals need to be amongst their own in the wild seas….not in a swimming pool that equates to a child's play pool. Morality cannot be forced on humans….they either have it or they don't and tragically the corporate greedy and their imbecile followers have no morality, compassion, kindness, or ethics!

  44. Pure truth based on fact. Not to mention it's really common sense. With the education test scores in this country it's not surprising that this has to be taught.

  45. If you want THE TRUTH , watch this, listen & follow Dr. Naomi Rose.  Her credentials, research, vast SCIENTIFIC knowledge as a marine biologist, education, work & passion for the orcas & no captivity speak for themselves.  PERIOD.  The truth is powerful.

  46. It's not rocket science, taking Orcas from the big blue ocean and putting them in tiny chlorinated tanks, to live in solitary a lot of the time is just wrong.

  47. Cetaceans are too intelligent and need to be with their families. A life of captivity performing is not natural nor is it educational.

  48. "He wasn't the best candidate, but he was the only candidate" -Naomi Rose on Keiko's self-described failed release. This is not how professionals make management and release decisions. You make decisions based on the welfare of the animals, not your personal feelings or the aims of a movement. Shame on anyone who captures a healthy animal and tries to put it in captivity in this day and age, and shame on anyone who would rather see an animal die or placed in danger as the result of attempted release (especially of long-term captive of captive born animals).

  49. Orcas in captivity are STRESSED, BORED, FRUSTRATED…
    They belong in the ocean, living a real orca life.
    #DontBuyATicket #DontGoToSeaWorld or any captive facility!
    #EmptyTheTanks #OpSeaWorld

  50. Dr. Rose, YOU ARE AWESOME! I am in awe of the knowledge you have — and share — of these magnificent beings. I have learned SO MUCH from you in the last 3 or 4 months, reading your research & hearing you speak, through YouTube, though, not in person, but I'm just really amazed at how hard you have worked for the Orcas, both captive and wild. I don't understand how anyone could possibly think captivity is a good thing after hearing this (or any of your other soeeches/interviews).

    To those "pro-caps" commenting here … watch the freaking video. LISTEN to what this woman — who worked for 5 YEARS studying every little thing the wild Resident whales in BC did. She studied them, and earned a DOCTORATE with her work && dissertation. What have YOU done to gain your "knowledge" of killer whales, sitting there behind your computer monitor, leaving stupid comments on youtube? Until you have credentials that match Dr. Rose's, until you have studied wild orca for 5 years & written a dissertation of your own… you should keep your yap shut about how "wonderful" captivity is.

  51. Thanks you dr naomi a.rose sadly some capivity pros dont even care to watch the video and just make dumb comments

  52. totally agree but the idea of putting SeaWorld out of business is flawed. If SeaWorld can no longer afford to care for these animals, then what's their fate? Not release. that costs millions of dollars, who's footing that bill?

  53. It is obvious orca captivity (as well as dolphins) is wrong. Only bad faith supports such cruel non-sense. Thank you Naomi Rose for your expertise and for speaking out.

  54. What a powerful speech Naomi Rose gave to the audience. Shame on you, SeaWorld! Like us, these whales have families and need to be with them.

  55. "Male orcas are six-ton momma's boys." My respect for orcas suddenly went down, when I realised that the males of their species are basically undersea Seymour Skinners. Captive orcas, it's more like Norman Bates.

    And, as for the inbreeding thing, that might be due to availability; why think about banging your sister when there's plenty of unrelated females to shag? Of course, male orcas are also the love'em and leave'em types.

  56. Great speech! I’ve heard so many different arguments for keeping Orcas out of captivity, but I really like how you touched on the whole family aspect of it. I think thats something we could all relate to, just like you stated in your opening speech

  57. They provide sun protection for guests but whales get sunburned because they cant dive deep enough..yet no protection for these whales. Its about money not protection or research!

  58. Sea world don't care. As long their making dosh, they'll continue to keep them. And saddly seaworld wanna be's are starting to follow stealing whales from Russia's waters.

  59. Awesome video!!!And every bit of it is the truth!!!!!We need to change what's going on with these whales as well as all other captive animals that should be wild . NOT ON DISPLAY FOR OUR HAPPINESS.!!!HAPPINESS IS TO SEE THESE CREATURE SKIN THEIR NATURAL HABIT ..DOING WHAT THEY DO …..NATURALLY.!!! THANK YOU FOR AN EYE OPENINH VIDEO……LINDA

  60. The most profound video I have seen to date about Orcas…
    Thank You Dr. Rose for your tireless dedication into research & public education into Orca lives… Your work is invaluable, & is being shared…

  61. The destruction of family in Mankind is the agenda of the NWO. The most cruel monsters ever to exist are in charge of everything going on. Their hideous life blood is a substance that would gag a maggot!
    The Orcas are not safe- no one is, until these NWO creatures are utterly destroyed. And I mean that in the Biblical reality of it!
    Get woke! You cant see the darkness in this light?
    Caveat!

  62. Best TEDx EVER!
    As someone already said, it really is unimaginable they haven't changed this situation yet. Were fixing to be 2020!
    Cetacean Captivity started in late 1950s-early 1960s! WTH is wrong with this situation?!
    I'll tell you, cuz slaveworld has very deep pockets and pays off a lot of legislators and lobbyists! Even PETA is strangely quiet still.
    😢 🐳 ❤

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