Which 3rd Party 2020 Run Would Wreak the Most Havoc?


Hey, David. Which third party candidacy. Would wreak the most havoc? On the 2020 election? 
Well, to answer this question, the OHV to add for which party in the sense that if Michael Bloomberg, for example, who is polling roughly 13 or 14% nationally among the Democratic 
primary voters, were to decide to run third party, that would be terrible for the eventual Democratic nominee because, although Michael Bloomberg was a Republican for many years in his life, 
clearly, in this election, he is on the other side of Trump on the other side of Republicans. And if Michael Bloomberg ran third party, it would be very good for Trump and bad for Democrats.
On the other hand, if a prominent Republican words a run third­party that has the potential to hurt Donald Trump by siphoning off a little bit of the support for him.
I don’t think there’s anybody really prominent who plans to do it. There were people saying It Romney with his impeachment vote was sort of setting himself up 
maybe testing the waters to see if there was an appetite for him to run third­party against Trump obviously he can’t win and it would certainly hurt Donald Trump help a Democrat doesn’t seem that
Miron has even the slightest interest in doing that. And then you have folks like some of the third party candidates or lower her Democratic 
candidates, like tools, Gabor where you hear people say, she’s the only one that could be Trump she could even beat Trump if he runs third party. Now it’s a completely delusional assertion to make. 
There is zero chance that tools defeats Trump if she runs third­party and she also has no path to any delegates in the Democratic primary of course, but to see good take just enough democratic votes 
that it hurts the eventual Democratic nominee now at the same time, her support is so low in the Democratic Party and she has some appeal to people on the right that a tools third­party run might 
equally take away from Trump and the Democratic nominee and maybe wouldn’t have that much of an effect, but the… To answer the question, what third party candidate most has the potential to up 
end the 2020 election. It’s just a matter of who is likely to move away from either Trump or the eventual Democrat economic towards the third­party candidate that is who is most likely to be hurt 
by it. Now, what I wanna hear from you is there’s mention of wood Bernie run third­party if he doesn’t get the nomination, I don’t believe he would, he said he wouldn’t.
Would Bloomberg run third­party when he doesn’t get the nomination? I don’t think he would. And he said the most important thing is removing Trump and Hill financially support whoever the 
nominee is. I believe the guy, I think that he will do that. Who is a likely third­party run that could actually have an impact. I don’t know that I can think of 
anyone off hand, likely and likely to have an impact. Of course, if Bernie ran third party, it would almost guarantee a Trump win but I don’t think there’s 
any chance Bernie runs, third party. Is there anyone who really might run third­party and could have 03/06/20  Page 15 of 17
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  1. I don't think it matters. Trump is too polarizing. Libertarians who like Trump will come out to vote Trump, Green Party who hate Trump will come out to vote Bernie. It's not going to matter this cycle.

  2. Obama would upset it the most. Seriously, you should have a general with 2 candidates with the highest votes going head to head, onto 2nd round. It would eliminate this sort of tactical calculations about "leeching" votes from your unhealthy binary setting where both sides need to go full force behind one candidate or lose

  3. How can a country with 329,000,000 people not come up with a couple dynamic, intelligent, honest, experienced, middle aged candidates?

  4. Sanders. Given how hard they are trying to shaft him yet again, i can see him saying to hell with the Democratic party machine.

  5. I wish Justin Amash would run as a libertarian to take votes away from Trump. That would make Michigan a guaranteed win for Democrats

  6. Since Stein isn't running for the Green party in this election, there is not even a barely viable third-party choice…even for a protest vote.

  7. tulsi setting herself up for a third party run. I mean why else would she stay in this long 🤷‍♂️ not to mention she’s running on “the DNC is rigged against me”

  8. A staunch progressive should mount a fake GOP race and be even crazier and more dangerous than Drumpf. It would siphon votes from Drumpf and that's worth it.

  9. Hey David, do you think that If Bernie won the Democratic nomination the Green Party would chose to not run a candidate and endorse Bernie? I remember Jill offered him the nomination last election so it seems like they are relatively fond of Bernie

  10. Bernie should run 3rd Party. Someone in his campaign needs to convince him to do this. The entire Democratic Party has shown it hates Bernie. I understand that. What is worse is their hatred of his supporters and their ideals. I get Bernie is older and may not want to go through the vigorous run for president if his chances of ever getting elected that way are minuscule. I wish he would find someone credible to run 3rd Party. Nina Turner?

  11. The economy is tanking which will make Trump unpopular. Biden is going to be exposed for his dementia at some point which will make him unviable. Plus what do we do if coronavirus wipes out like 5% of congress? This is extremely fertile ground for a 3rd party run.

  12. I think the only way Bloomberg runs as a third-party candidate is if Bernie Sanders comes into the DNC Convention with a plurality of the delegates and gains the super delegate support to win the nomination.

  13. IDK, maybe Tulsi is hoping Coronovirus takes out all the old people running for President, leaving only her standing. JK, but seriously, why is she still running?

  14. If the Libertarians quit running Monty Python characters as candidates and found a sane one to run they could dent the Republican party. It would be an attractive alternative for the never trumper Republicans.

  15. Tulsi needs to be BERNIES VP.
    BERNIE SHOULD RUN 3RD PARTY.I THINK ITS STUPID FOR BERNIE NOT TO RUN 3RD PARTY IF DNC CHEATS HIM AGAIN. T,SOME POINT HE NEEDS TO LET GO OF DBC APRON STRINGS. THEYRE TOXIC TO HIM. BYRN THOSE MOFOS DOWN OR STOP PRETENDING TO CARE.
    FUCKING FIGHT BACK NO HOLDS BARRED. THEY STILL OWE US A DAMN CONVENTION FROM LAST TIME AND A BERNIE CANDIDACY. TAKE IT BET IE OR SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP. THODE DICKS ARE OUR E EMUES, N O T OUR FRIENDS!!!! ACT LIKE IT..

  16. How do you say "Tulsa" as in the city in Oklahoma? If you don't say tioooul-sa, then please stop being pejorative towards Tulsi by saying her name that way. It sounds bigoted. Your dog whistles aren't that subtle but they are that offensive.

  17. Brace yourselves for a black monday tomorrow.
    The stock market is gonna tank.
    Oil prices are at 30$ because saudi arabia put more oil on the market.

  18. I’m voting Green if Biden is the nominee. And I’m hoping, if that’s the case, they get the most 3rd party votes since Ross Perot.

  19. If, by some miracle, Bernie takes back his lead to become the Democratic candidate, I could 100% see Bloomberg run as 3rd party. DNC prefers Trump over Bernie.

  20. David, you seem to forget the Libertarian Party, the Constitution Party & the Green Party which, combined, garnered 5 million votes in 2016.
    WE ALREADY HAVE THIRD PARTIES.

    If Biden is the Democratic Party nominee with Klobuchar as the VP — as was accidentally leaked by Amy — I WILL be voting Green Party AGAIN… as I did in 2012 & 2016.
    I am in a solidly "blue" state… but even if I weren't, I would vote my conscience.

    I CANNOT support a corporate totalitarian as "opposition" to a Neo-Fascist. They are equivalent; one wears kid gloves & the other wears iron boots.
    To think one is voting "strategically" is a logical fallacy… and is NOT some moral high-ground.
    It is capitulation.

  21. I would love to see the Green Party nominate Sanders in all safe dem states and then either not run in battleground states or nominate the Democratic nominee in those contested states.

  22. The fact that having more than 2 people running for president in this country is somehow a bad thing just proves how screwed up our system is.

  23. I'm really worried about the People's Front of Judea, and lest we forget the Popular Front of Judea–he could be a real wildcard in the race.

  24. My Voting Bloc will never vote for an Establishment Democrat like Joe Biden. Moreover, we will never waste our votes on anyone who supports the military-industrial complex and/or who has bent the knee to the dynastic plutocratic families, the corporate oligarchs, and the international banksters, many of whom are Zionists (like the Neocons, members of AIPAC, and the Christian Zionists). See my group on Facebook: "Creating a Wonderful World. (let's get it done already)".

  25. I'll only vote 3rd party or independent. This "your only helping Trump" mentality will ensure the DNC keep getting away with corruption. We need a 3rd party with 25% of the vote

  26. I'd vote for Tulsi in a heartbeat if she ran 3rd party. It's the only way I could vote in the 2020 election with a clear conscience.

  27. Funny how he inserts the caveat that Bernie has said he wouldn't run as a 3rd party but entertains the idea that Tulsi would after she has said on multiple occasions that she would not.

  28. If any purist Democrats want to make a third party please leave and take Jill Stein and Tulsi Gabbard with you

  29. It will be Tulsi gabbard when she runs for president as an independent. And she will regardless of what she has said.

  30. Bernie if Biden gets the nomination, though he wouldn't do it. I wish his diehards had the same love for the country as they do for him. He's said numerous times that the most important thing is defeating Trump. But too ma y would throw a fit if given any other candidate as nominee. And I don't care about Hillary's 2008 voters defecting to McCain. Enough whataboutism. Be an adult and do the right thing in November even if it's not optimal.

  31. I remember during the 2016 election David Pakman said that Trump would never win the election. It would be delusional to take Pakman's analysis seriously

  32. is Jill Stein going to run for the Green Party again in 2020?
    if not, who will be their 2020 candidate?
    the Green Party always takes some votes away from the Dems

  33. In the 80’s, I was able to work almost full time, in a union job that paid for my overhead costs
    (housing and food) and university costs (tuition fees and books). This is not feasible
    today.  Senator Bernie Sanders challenges the establishment ideals that are entrapped in old policies that do not benefit working Americans.  I trust Bernie to fight for us.

  34. David keeps saying that Tulsi has No path to any delegates. Actually has already 2 delegates. Doesn't Change anything of course. But David was kinda wrong and of course should Stop saying it

  35. 🛑David, have you seen this 2007 video of joe Biden endorsing Medicare for All? Is it real? https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4859070/user-clip-joe-biden-hypocrite

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