Why I DON’T CELEBRATE THANKSGIVING in Germany


Hey everyone! Dana here. Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday in the
whole year, and it’s the holiday that I miss the most living here in Germany. My first few years in Europe I really went
to great lengths to try to celebrate Thanksgiving here in Europe, but I don’t anymore. Why not? Like I said, I love Thanksgiving. For me, Thanksgiving was always about spending
time with family and friends over some delicious food, and it, it always had this special, warm comfortable, cozy feeling to celebrate Thanksgiving. And my first few years here, I really wanted
so badly to recreate that cozy, special feeling of Thanksgiving here in Germany. So I thought to myself: Okay…what do I need
to make Thanksgiving in Germany? It wasn’t easy to get our hands on a turkey,
and I’m not even sure if our oven would have been big enough for one, so Mr. German Man
and I cooked chicken instead. And we did have to go around to 4 or 5 different
shops to find sweet potatoes, but in the end it was a success. We did find sweet potatoes for my sweet potato
casserole, so I was really excited about that. And pecan pie has always been my favorite
Thanksgiving dessert, and so I really wanted to have that at my Thanksgiving in Germany. So I was like, okay…pecan pie. What do I need to make a pecan pie in Germany? Hm, well, I need a pie tin. Pie tin. Yes. I could not find one of those here in Germany,
so I made a substitution, instead of a pie tin I would use a skillet that could withstand
the higher temperatures in the oven. Okay, so “pie tin,” check. What else? Well, one of the main ingredients in pecan
pie is corn syrup. And again, this is something that I couldn’t
find in Germany. But I was like, that’s no big deal. I’m sure there are recipes out there that
make pecan pie without the corn syrup. And that’s right! There were. But the problem there was these ingredients
instead of the corn syrup were also something that I couldn’t find in Germany. So now I had to make the pecan pie substituting
something for the substitute ingredient for the actual ingredient for the pecan pie. In the end what I made resembled a pecan pie,
and it wanted really, really badly to taste like a pecan pie. But it just wasn’t a pecan pie. And I would say the pecan pie is a pretty
good metaphor for my entire experience of trying to celebrate Thanksgiving here in Germany. The fourth Thursday in November is, of course,
not a day off here in Germany. So if we wanted to celebrate Thanksgiving
with our family here, we pretty much needed to do it on the weekend. So now, instead of a Thursday, we were celebrating
Thanksgiving on a Saturday, two days after all of my friends and family in the U.S. had
already celebrated Thanksgiving. And I was doing this in a country where, of
course, very few other people were actually celebrating the holiday. Living in the U.S., I had never realized that
so much of the specialness of the holiday had come from the fact that so many people
all around me were also celebrating it. Stores were decorated for Thanksgiving, people
who didn’t even know each other wished each other Happy Thanksgiving. There was just something in the air. The whole day just had this electric charge
to it. You could feel it. You could feel that it was a holiday. And this feeling was missing from my Thanksgiving
celebrations in Germany. And of course, all of that; the lack of electric
charge, and the funky pecan pie, and celebrating on the wrong day. All of that could’ve just been overlooked
and forgotten about if I had had my parents there to celebrate with me. But I didn’t. They were back in the U.S. celebrating two
days earlier. So after a few years of trying really, really
hard to recreate that Thanksgiving feeling here in Germany, I stopped. In the end, I always found that trying to
grab onto that holiday…trying to hold onto that feeling from the U.S., it always ended
up making me feel more homesick and sadder than if I had just skipped it altogether. There have been so many new holidays and traditions
that I’ve been introduced to living here in Germany. And over the years I’ve just found that I
need to let go of some of the traditions from the U.S. It hasn’t worked for me to hold onto them
so tightly. And for me, Thanksgiving was just one of those traditions that I kind of needed to let go of here in Germany. I can’t. I simply cannot recreate my pecan pie that
I love so much from the U.S. I can’t make that exact same thing here in Germany. I just can’t. It’s not possible. The ingredients don’t exist here. And neither do the ingredients that I need
for my Thanksgiving feeling. And that’s okay. Because that’s a part of moving abroad. You leave some things that you love at home. You have to. You can’t take everything. But in exchange, you get the chance to become
a part of some new traditions in that new country. So my question for you is: Have you ever been
to a Thanksgiving celebration and what did you think of it? Please let me know in the comments below. And a special little Thanksgiving holiday
riddle question for you: What comes before Thanksgiving, Halloween, and New Year’s in
the U.S., but not before Christmas? For the answer, check out my quick, little
video that will be going up on the Telekolleg Facebook page tomorrow, Thanksgiving Day,
at around 5 p.m. German time. I hope you get a kick out of the answer. Thanks so much for watching. I really hope you enjoyed this video. If you like what I do and you’re not subscribed
to the channel yet, you could subscribe for more videos. And if you liked this video, you could show
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there that maybe you’d like to check out. And for more photos and sometimes other short
video clips, you can check me out over here on my Twitter and my Facebook page. Until next time, auf Wiedersehen! Happy Thanksgiving! What comes before Christmas…no. Stores were decorated for Thanksgiving. People that didn’t even know each other witched…witch. Witched each other Happy Thanksgiving! Witched! Mhhhh. I’m a witch! Two days after all of my friends and family
back in the U.S. had already celebrated Thanksgiving and they were all now trying to figure out
what to do with all those dang turkey leftovers. But I was like, I’m sure there are recipes
out there for making corn syrup without the corn…making pecan pie without the corn syrup. Until next time…auf Wiedersehen! And Happy Halloween! Happy Thanksgiving. Wrong holiday.

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  1. Thanksgiving riddle: What comes before Thanksgiving, Halloween and New Year in the U.S., but not before Christmas? Any guesses before checking the answer? 😀 Answer here: https://www.facebook.com/tele.kolleg/videos/1361637457209609/ All the quick English videos are collected on this site afterwards: https://www.br.de/telekolleg/faecher/englisch/dana/index.html 🙂 Hope you enjoy them!

  2. i never celebrated Thanksgiving (being a swede, living in Germany), but i really understand that need to keep your holidays alive even abroad .

    during my first couple of yrs in Germany i also tried to get my hubby & kids into all these "strange" (for germans) swedish holidays, but without the atmosphere (other ppl also celebrating, shop decorations etc.) it just does not work !

    for ex. i kept baking "lussebullar" (saffron buns) for St. Lucia (dec 13th), but without the "luciatåg" (sort of a parade) & the lights & singing early in the morning @ kindergarden, @ school or in the city streets even, my kids & their friends couldn't understand the big deal about these buns …

  3. Why don't you just visit one of the ameican military communities like Ramstein Airbase for example. They have huge malls where you can get everything you need. 😉

  4. This summer I was in Germany as an exchange student for three weeks, I was there for the 4th of July, my host family was very sweet about and and we lit sparklers, and drank orange juice in champagne glasses and her father asked for American history, specifically the Boston Tea Party, my favorite this was when my host father's sparkler went out he said (in English) "my independence is gone" and I was just laughing, it was still a very fun little party they had for me but it wasn't the same, can't wait to return to Germany in 2018

  5. We stopped celebrating Thanksgiving as well after 2 years, we are vegans so dead birds and pies are OUT anyways but we go to Christmas fairs in the city… Christmas starts much earlier in Germany, have you noticed that? Even BEFORE Thanksgiving so nothing is missed…

  6. Nun, das "Erntedankfest" gibt es hier auch. Nur gehört das zu diesem Religiotenmist, weshalb es keinen Menschen mit Verstand interessiert….

  7. Once I helped out serving Thanksgiving dinner at Martha's Table in Washington, D.C. and noticed that the servings were so popular that certain individuals had actually brought plastic bags to make the plate disappear into them. When confronted with it, they admitted they wanted some of the goodies at home. As understandable as that was, it still made an impact on the staff and myself as to where the limits of goodwill were.

  8. I don't know where you live, but I live very close to Germany in Switzerland. I've had no issues finding turkey there. Or sweet potatoes.

  9. Wow, I think that it's very different if you come over here with a family. My husband's American, our kids are American so we just do Thanksgiving with our friends who are also American. It's been wonderful and we share with our friends here in Switzerland and Germany! I just hosted our party and there were 50+ people there. People from Spain, France, Germany, Switzerland, and more! It was wonderful and a chance to share what we do in the US and just hang out and eat. I understand it takes some effort and everyone has to do what feels right. I look forward to Thanksgiving every year!

  10. You do realize that in the area that is germany today, people have celebrated (in diferent versions and variantes) "Erntedankfest" wich is something like "beeing thankfull for the harvest" and therefor the Grand-dad- of thanksgiving for OVER 2'300 years …
    (so ~2'000 years before the USA was even a thing)

    Also… you can get pie tins pretty easy in germany … but like with a lot of other stuff germans like stuff you can use more than once (insead of the USA'ler) so you could have used every "Kuchenform" (Pie cast… i guess) out there

    also, even though germans arnt as obsest with corn like the usa'ler, you can find cornsyrup in every bigger foodstore

  11. well nobody gives a shit about thanksgiving in germany, because as you said it's NOT a holiday here and in general not a real thing to celebrate.
    and do i have to mention WHY should we celebrate the slaughter of indigenous people in your country??? and we have something called "erntedankfest" we celebrate that. not that big though.

  12. To me it all those atmosphere and happy-greeting things sound like christmas. That's how christmas time works. Decorations everywhere, happy, friendly people, exciting feelings, great food all day and so on.
    I actually never understood why someone would celebrate thanksgiving. Why do they? 😀 I really don't know at all…

  13. umm i just checked amazon and almost all ingredients can be bought there…including corn syrup ^^ ! But i know what you mean it´s just not the same. I can compare it to try to celebrate Christmas in a muslimic country. I was in Saudi Arabia once and yeah the hotels had some christmas trees, but no one is celebrating it so the "magic" is gone. Our german thanksgiving called " Erntedankfest" is in September.

  14. Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday! We just celebrated Thanksgiving on Saturday here in Mannheim, another American friend and I cooked for 14 people! Couldn't find pecans, but I used walnuts for the sweet potato pie and it tasted amazing. And Ullrich's Putenhof in Odenwald has actual turkeys, and even American-style stuffing. 🙂 9kg and it fit in our oven! Pie plate from TK Maxx, sweet potatoes from our organic delivery service. On actual Thanksgiving I wished a random American I heard walking past a happy Thanksgiving, and they lit up! And we FaceTimed with my family on Saturday. I turned it into a family (with my in-laws) festival here, too. They absolutely love it and love incorporating the American aspect of our family into German life here.

    I think that holidays are never the same when you grow up and start your own family, no matter where you are, whether you're an Ausländerin or not. For me, it is extremely important to hold onto those traditions, for myself and for my future children. I use my family recipes passed down for generations. My siblings confirm that it isn't the same as it once was, as we have grown up, moved across states, have lives of our own. Christmas isn't the same as when I was a kid, either…can't celebrate every year in Colorado or with my siblings and cousins, because now I have another side of the family, another continent, another culture to take part in, too. But just because it isn't the same doesn't mean you should give up on it completely! That makes me sad!

  15. Oh god is it just me or is anyone else just so damn sad everytime Dana talks in this sad voice, but still smiling?
    She's like "I'm so sad and lonely but…but I should still be happy, sadness is not good…"
    It's SO depressing D:

  16. As Lilly already said [in Bavaria, Germany] it is called "Erntedankfest" and it is for sure an older tradition then America's thanksgiving.

  17. hmmm why those problems, i was able to find the corn sirup on amazon, i can get the sweet potatoes at the rewe market here. By the way the pie tin is also listed on amazon.
    Btw. i´m not getting payed for this.

  18. I'm glad you were able to move past the loneliness of missing Thanksgiving! I love celebrating it as well, but in your situation, ya just gotta move on. 😉

  19. Thanksgiving is one of the things i, as a german, would really love to experience at least once in my life. There are so many things seeping over here from America – Christmas here is getting more and more 'american' (i can't think of a better way to describe it, but then again, i don't care for christmas anyway), Halloween is a thing here now (don't care for that, might have been nice back when i was a child though), but Thanksgiving isn't and we also don't really have a counterpart here in Germany. Sure, we have Erntedank, but that's completely different, really.

    I don't know – just something about the idea of Thanksgiving – a big family coming together, sharing a delicious meal – is something i like. But maybe that's just because my family is rather small and, at times, well … let's call it disfuntional.

    But, to be honest, the way Americans seem to celebrate Thanksgiving is pretty similar to Christmas here in Germany.

  20. That's interesting, what were the other traditions that were new for you? I would find it interesting if you could make a video about that.
    And I have two more questions: How is Thanksgiving celebrated in the US, I don't know much about it except from the turkey-thing. And have you ever made a video about Christmas in Germany and the US?

  21. keine ahnung unter welchem Stein sie wohnt, aber alle zutaten für nen pecanuss-kuchen inkl. der backform und corn sirup gibts hier in jedem real markt. Und ich wohn hier auf nem kuhkaff.. in den großen Städten gibts doch sogar Abteilungen mit US-Zeug und was es da nicht gibt hat amazon auf jeden Fall.

  22. I find it a bit strange that the people in the US are still celebrating the joy the Pilgrims experienced when they found out a plague had all but completely wiped out the native population of Massachusetts, claiming "God" had "given" the land to them after removing the "heathens". Although it didn't become a national holiday until Abraham Lincoln institutionalized it as a sort of morale boost in the Civil War.

  23. Hallo Dana,
    what do you think about all the stores in Germany advertising Black Friday? I think it is quite odd, because I don't think it was used last year here. But this year I heard 3 radio spots in a row, like Black Friday was a normal thing in Germany.

  24. Please, share the pie recipe – because I think, you can buy all things you need and I'd like to know, how a pecan pie tastes like. 🙂
    Thanks!

  25. i am german, and i was wondering myself. I got many friends from the US, and on Thanksgiving they all wished me happy thanksgiving and they were grateful to have me and stuff. i was really confused about it. but also happy, that they think of their friends and telling them, how important they are to them. we don´t know that kind of apreciation here.

  26. I was in Germany for an internship one year during Thanksgiving. I had to work that day, so I ended up spending most of my one-hour lunch break running around to different food places nearby and piecing together a "Thanksgiving meal" with some duck, veggies, and mashed potatoes… then I got back to wok with about 10 minutes of my lunch break left and had to eat my whole meal really fast by myself in the break room. Overall, it was pretty comical… I knew it would be ridiculous before I even tried, but I didn't realize HOW ridiculous until I actually went through with it. 😀

  27. An excellent example of western American accents.
    pecan:
    "Pee-can" (ew)
    "puh-kahn"
    or
    syrup
    "see-rip"
    "syr-up"
    Your vowels are extremely upper Midwestern. Where are you from?

  28. Everytime you say Mr. German Man in your videos I think of the German Porsche driver with the feather in Super Troopers. So that's who you're dating in my mind.

  29. It took me 20 seconds to find corn syrup and turkey in Germany. Amazon.de has about 30 different corn syrups and you can get turkey delivered directly from the farm, high quality 6kg at around €80. 20 seconds! any local butcher will do as well, at least in my experience. the better substitute would also be goose rather than (lame) chicken 🙂

  30. How about pumpkin pie? I bet they have pumpkins in Germany. A nice baked chicken and dressing baked in any type of pan and some nice gravy to go with it sounds good. Green bean casserole and sweet potato casserole and maybe some banana pudding should give you the feeling of being home.
    P.S. I wonder if simple syrup (a little thicker cooked) would work instead of corn syrup for pecan pie. Just a thought.

  31. The Thanksgiving holiday was instituted by President Abraham Lincoln during the dark days of the Civil War as a show of gratitude, fasting and prayer before a Holy God. They believed that if people gave God thanks for all things, good things and bad things, that He might be inclined to show mercy to the country and bring peace to the land. The story about the so called first Thanksgiving is an apocryphal account, and there is little or no evidence of such a celebration. The treatment of the Native American was not then nor is it now Genocide. Genocide is the systematic extermination of a people. The policy of the US government in the 19th century was to persuade the Native Americans to move to reservations, to be taught the ways of so called civilized men. They were to be taught how to cultivate the land, and adopt the ways of modern society. Assimilation was the goal, not genocide, it was believed that as soon as the backward Natives saw for themselves how superior the civilized way of life was compared to their own, they would happily abandon their formerly itinerant lifestyle, forsaking it for something better. Unfortunately, this paternalistic attitude did not work and the Native resisted assimilation, and in some cases to arms.

  32. I had a Thanksgiving dinner in France one time. the cook did a really good job re-creating almost everything until he got to the cranberry sauce. sauces in France are usually liquid so they didn't understand that we leave it in a jellied form. so heated it up until the jelly melted and served it in a bowl with cranberries floating in it. he couldn't understand why we would do that. I explained that because that's not how we serve it. then why don't you call it cranberry jelly? I suppose that's a good question.

  33. Pie isn't a think in Germany? Huh.
    If you decide to make a pecan pie again for whatever reason, you should be able to use stroop or golden treacle (Lyle's is a UK brand).

  34. Her accent sounds more like a Wisconsinite than a Floridian. I'm from Wisconsin and people I know don't even have vowels that wide. But maybe it's the German because many people in Wisconsin come from Germany and now we all have wide vowels. Just something I think about when listening to her accent

  35. Wait what? You couldn't get a turkey? That's bullshit. I have been living in Germany for 27 years now and never had problems buying a turkey, you can get them in EVERY grocery store.
    They are either called "Pute" or "Truthahn", depending on where you buy it. But its both the same – a turkey.

  36. After watching a lot of your you-tube vines, you finally seem to settle in. Welcome to Germany! It is not that bad after all. And yes, some have mentioned it before. In religious (catholic and protestant) parishes, Erntedank is celebrated, it just has not the vibe of an American Thanksgiving. But that is there and not here, you mentioned it before. Why we start celebrating the indian Holi-festivals, Halloween and Valentine's day, I do not know!

  37. You missed to tell the people in the clip that we have Erntedank here … Especially in rural areas, there are Volksfest-like celebrations, too.

  38. You are in Bavaria, here are pretty many US military outposts, so there are american communities living here too, i think i wouldnt been hard to find a bunch of people celebrating with 😮

  39. My sister lived at least a decade in Ireland (she's Canadian) and she, her husband and children continued to celebrate Canadian Thanksgiving in Ireland.

  40. It's funny the different ways common words are pronounced by Americans. Different regions of the country have different pronunciations for many American words. Your way of saying pecan in this video was driving me crazy. I grew up in Texas where the pecan tree is the state tree. We say p'khan while you say pee-can. LOL That just sounds gross. What are you doing to that pie? Even where I live now in the deep south, we say p'khan. I guess yours is just the Yankee way which is usually WRONG! Stay beautiful.

  41. Erntedankfest is a completely different celebration in Germany, with a different tradition. We used to celebrate it in church, with everyone bringing salads, desserts and such and enjoying the meal with 40 people or more in the church garden or inside. :)Speaking of celebrating on the wrong day, don't you remember that Thanksgiving used to be on the third Sunday in November in the US? Many people do. I believe I do too, that's so creepy.

  42. Thanksgiving was the precursor to the Christmas Hollidays…my own favorites.  Thanksgiving was for getting together with family…before Christmas and for me, no other reason to celebrate.

  43. Grins…and you need to have the ingredients shipped to you if you need pecan pie so much…I do love it too…but…for all holliday food!

  44. Hehe, it's much easier to celebrate when your kid was born on Thanksgiving day. We never celebrated Thanksgiving before he was born, and then for his first birthday I had the brilliant idea that I was going to make Thanksgiving dinner. The family came, they ate everything, and when they left, my SIL said, "This is a great tradition. We should do it again next year." I've been making 6 sides, 3 pies, and 1 birthday cake every year ever since (my husband does the turkey)….

    (Turkey can be found in the Kaufland; they're not as big as the ones in the States but they're a decent size and will fit in most ovens. For corn syrup the only place I've ever seen it was at some of the "tokos" as they're called in Dutch, little shops that specialize in foreign food – it's expensive, though, so I just make apple, pumpkin, and salted caramel pies)

  45. I'm glad you've managed to kind of 'make peace' with not being able to really celebrate Thanksgiving over here — but I really hope that maybe it's possible for you to make a trip to the US that coincides with Thanksgiving in the not too distant future :)! Because I somehow don't now how to say it in Englisch: Das wünsche ich dir :).

  46. I agree, but Germany instead has a wonderfull "Adventszeit" and a wonderfull X-mas time even one day longer as in the USA 🙂

  47. Why don't you go shopping in the commissary (e.g. Wiesbaden)?
    Friend of mine goes there one every few months and brings all the stuff you just mentioned from the US. The stationed soldiers in South Germany get their stuff there.

  48. It doesn't matter it's a made upDay by the us government anyways. Since the Jewish world powers are trying to destroy the family unit through pornogrophy, violence, taxation, and poisoning us through the food and water and air to achieve their world government… we don't have much to be thankful for. Plus once you realize the god of the Bible doesn't exist and he's just like Santa Claus then the whole silliness of it is apparent. This is not the 1970s anymore

  49. Hello Dana. Maybe one way to celebrate thanksgiving in germany is to make a little travel to Grafenwöhr, bavaria.
    The americans from the army base surely celebrate thanksgiving together whith their family and friends.
    There should be some locations you could take the thanksgiving dinner
    (and the possibility to take company with americans)
    Maybe a thought?
    Sorry for this terrible english, my capabilities are… limited ^^

  50. I thought now will come some self reflect.. And self criticism… But no…
    I coudnt feed my stomach that excessevly, if so many have Hunger as their deepest travler in life… Its a shame.

  51. looking at all the comments from people outside America. looks like they know very little about the holiday. Plus people from all countries could celebrate their own thanksgiving. For what ever situation applies to their country

  52. I've been in Germany since 1974 and have celebrated Thanksgiving every year since then – first with diverse friends, and then with my own family and friends, then with my own children, their spouses, friends and our grandchildren – yes, on Saturday. It has become a staple of our relation to family and friends. Of course, it takes a lot of effort, but for the last 43 years it has been worth it.

  53. I Kirk A. Williams from the Great State of Arizona can see how you feel. I married a French Wom…/Girl. Okay well I lived in France had 3 boys during the 90s. Anywho we moved back to the States in 2000. Back to the good old US of A, worts and all. Been back for 17 years. Now my French wife is now more American than me. This is what I know, this is what you need to do. Plan with your American friends to celebrate Thanksgiving with your US friends. There are two holidays you need to seek your American friends. The 4th and Thanksgiving. Have a good old American pot luck. The problem is it is not really a holiday in Europe so time off is hard justify time off. But can be easier because it’s not really a holiday. Anyway you can do it. I know and feel your pain.

  54. Poor girl… I am Dutch I am sooooo glad to be back in the Netherlands after a week of Germany, I kinda feel super sorry for you…

  55. I have the opposite problem. I missed a lot of german cooking products and food items… until I decided to go shopping, during a visit with family. And I frequently “order” food items, from my folks, well before I plan a dinner party. (FYI: I’m a german immigrant to the US.)

  56. Of course I've been to a Thanksgiving celebration; I'm an American who has always lived in America. LOL I love pumpkin pie; that's my favorite. Not sure if you could get those ingredients in Germany, either.

  57. There is a Thanksgiving in germany but is it a more like christian celebration. It is called "Erntedankfest" and it is also in autmn. With the "Erntedankfest" you thank for having food and for a good harvest. You also ask for a good harvest in the next year. 😊

  58. When in Thailand I went to a Thanksgiving dinner with a crowd of Americans. It was, without doubt, the worst meal I ever had in Thailand.

  59. When I lived in Ireland we American students would all get together and do Thanksgiving dinner. Of course everyone's family traditions differed but we did it as a potluck and it worked well. We'd invite our Irish friends and every year it got bigger and better. Now many years later, Thanksgiving remains my favourite holiday but amidst all my perfect traditional dishes, I find myself missing our funky Irish alternatives and the camaraderie we all shared so far away from home.

  60. I use to do the holidays, but after my parents passed away I no longer enjoyed doing that. I have many good memories, but it would take too long to talk about!

  61. The American nation still abuses the native nations, steals their land, rapes their women whilst the greedy whites get fat on too much food, the whole concept is a bit twisted really.

  62. Well, I suppose that you could mix it up a little with a nice roasted duck, and apple strudel with cinnamon. A nice herb bread dressing would be appropriate as well. Green bean casserole, and maybe some German sausage. Meh… When in Rome, do as the Romans do. Every year, the Edelweiss German Restaurant in Colorado Springs put on one helluva Thanksgiving spread, and this year will be no different. Check this out:
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4gufnyhffQ

  63. Why would you believe in America killing innocent native American tribes you thick cos I'm British and I believe some Americans should leave UK alone and not tamper with UK tradition like how we celebrate black Friday thanks America (not) and read the truth fool Thanksgiving are for people who think killing inocent natives is fine we'll you are wrong.

  64. your supper of chicken, and sweet Potato casserole and almost-pecan pie U.S.-Germany Thanksgiving sounds a lot better then my Canadian Thankgving two days ago in Germany supper of Chocolate granola bars, wasbi-flavour Kim (seaweed), carrots, apple slices and chips.

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